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   Hillary Clinton Has Awkward Exchange Over Her Position On Gay Marriage

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6/12/2014 4:00 pm

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Huffington Post

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Entered 6/12/2014, Updated 6/12/2014

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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton engaged in an awkward exchange with NPR's Terry Gross on Thursday when the radio host pushed her on her evolving stance on gay marriage. When Clinton ran for the Democratic nomination for president in 2008, she, like then-candidate Barack Obama, opposed gay marriage. Since then, both Clinton and Obama have both publicly switched their stance on the issue. Gross attempted to clarify whether Clinton's initial opposition was a "political calculation." During their conversation, Clinton responded vaguely to Gross' attempts to clarify whether the likely 2016 candidate's position on gay marriage changed at any point, making general points like "just because you’re a politician doesn’t mean you’re not a thinking human being," and "I think I’m an American, I think that we have all evolved."


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J.R. said

on 6/12/2014 4:09 pm

Her roll out doesn't seem to be going too well. When you start lashing out at a pretty innocuous reporter like NPR's Terry Gross, you're out of the game. What's going to happen when someone asks her a legitimate tough question?

 

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Labour Dem said

on 6/12/2014 7:57 pm

It's not like Republicans support gay marriage enough to really hit Hillary over this. The bigger story today is that Rick Perry, who could run in 2016, supports gay conversion therapy. Let's talk about that.

 

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Ralphie said

on 6/12/2014 8:18 pm

Post an article, then. This thread is about Hillary Clinton.

 

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Labour Dem said

on 6/12/2014 8:24 pm

I know who this thread is about, I'm just pointing out that this is a bit of straw grasping. What is the real gripe here? It's flimsy.

 

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Jason said

on 6/12/2014 8:47 pm

Clinton has always had extremely thin skin.

 

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Homegrown Democrat said

on 6/13/2014 6:05 am

But she did so well in 2008. That effort was marked by hubris, lousy messaging, poor strategic planning, and legendary internal tensions—including back-biting, leaks, and fierce inside politics—that many within the politerati blamed, fairly or not, on Penn. Or ... not.

 

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Brandon said

on 6/13/2014 6:53 am

Clinton has always had extremely thin skin. Actually, in a somewhat weird way, I kind of feel like she had much thicker skin before she started gunning for office in her own right. I mean, let's face it, there was never a time when she wasn't a politician, even when she wasn't herself running for stuff, but when she was the subject of criticism and attacks as first lady I thought she handled it pretty well. She reacted with an appropriate amount of ire every once in a while, but her general attitude always sort of seemed to be "they're gonna say whatever they want to say about me, so fine, screw them" in a non-defensive tone that didn't reveal much irritation. It's really only since she started running for president herself that things seem to get under her skin, which is a bit odd to me since after years of familiarity with tough criticism and questions, one would think she'd have a more finely-tempered plate of armor. Anyway, yeah, it is something she's going to need to work on if she intends to run.

 

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Imperator said

on 6/13/2014 7:31 am

She will never have her husband's charm, no matter how hard she works.

 

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GavinBrown said

on 6/13/2014 7:57 am

I love how it says how "testy" she gets, she answered the question.

 

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Dole/McCain Republican said

on 6/13/2014 4:19 pm

I despise Hillary, but this shows the double standard the liberal media has when it comes to treating her and Messiah Obama. In contrast to this exchange, Obama was hailed has a "hero" and called the first gay president for engaging in the very same crass behaviors as Hillary. It's amazing how much the media is in the pocket of the president. At least when Hillary "evolved" she didn't have her vice president test the waters first.

 

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Dole/McCain Republican said

on 6/13/2014 6:22 pm

What I meant to say was that Obama was hailed as a hero, even though (as you said) Biden went rogue first and Obama didn't "evolve" until Biden said something first. (Perhaps my original wording was not the best.) My main point was that when Obama flip-flopped on gay marriage, no one in the liberal media called him out on it; this is in stark contrast to what just happened to Hillary.

 

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Ralphie said

on 6/13/2014 8:14 pm

Haven't you complained in the past about Democrats getting a free ride on gay rights despite past opposition? Obama is a lame duck president and the front-runner to succeed him got called on exactly that. Why doesn't this make you happy?

 

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Andy said

on 6/14/2014 12:27 am

Barack Obama is the exact type of coldly calculating politician Republicans stereotype Hillary Clinton as being. I find it hard to believe Joe Biden's support of gay marriage wasn't some sort of carefully orchestrated attempt to test the waters for the President, with Biden's proclivity for "wacky" statements being a convenient fallback if public reaction had been outwardly negative.

 

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Dole/McCain Republican said

on 6/14/2014 2:15 am

Quote: "Haven't you complained in the past about Democrats getting a free ride on gay rights despite past opposition? Obama is a lame duck president and the front-runner to succeed him got called on exactly that. Why doesn't this make you happy?" I am so glad that Hillary was called out her gay marriage flip-flop. My point--and I am sorry if I failed to make it clear--was that I am angry in regards to how Obama was never called out on it. Instead, just the opposite happened, and he was called a hero and the first gay president. I think the way that Obama gets away with his hypocrisy is disgusting, and I am guessing that he can get away with it (whereas Hillary cannot) because he is the liberal savior. I am curious as to other peoples' opinions as to why Obama was never called out by the press (and other liberals) for flip-flopping on gay marriage. Quote: "Barack Obama is the exact type of coldly calculating politician Republicans stereotype Hillary Clinton as being. I find it hard to believe Joe Biden's support of gay marriage wasn't some sort of carefully orchestrated attempt to test the waters for the President, with Biden's proclivity for "wacky" statements being a convenient fallback if public reaction had been outwardly negative." Although Hillary is a calculating politician, what you said is 100% correct, and I would give your post a thumbs up if I knew how. This man sells himself as a caring and honest person who is different from normal politicians, and I have no idea how so many people were dumb enough to fall for it (at least prior to the "you can keep your health care plan if you like it" statement being proven false). I knew he was your typical liar and opportunist back in 2008, when he withdrew on a promise he made with McCain to abide by public financing during the general election.

 

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Hikikomori Blitzkrieg! said

on 6/14/2014 10:27 am

Obama is a lame duck president... I'm not one of his fans, but with five months to go before the midterm elections, I think its a wee bit early to start deploying the "lame duck" term. I remember the media started calling Ronald Reagan a lame duck literallty the day after he defeated Mondale, and that was BS too.

 

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Hikikomori Blitzkrieg! said

on 6/14/2014 10:29 am

...I would give your post a thumbs up if I knew how... Double-click on the "2¢" icon.

 

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kal said

on 6/14/2014 11:18 am

I remember the media started calling Ronald Reagan a lame duck literallty the day after he defeated Mondale, and that was BS too. You're like totally old, dude....I may be still channeling my inner 80's child references on another thread.

 

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Ralphie said

on 6/15/2014 1:01 am

I am angry in regards to how Obama was never called out on it. Instead, just the opposite happened, and he was called a hero and the first gay president. I think in general gay rights advocates are appreciative when somebody comes around to their position and it's easy to forgive mild opposition in the past. And when the newly-supportive person is the most powerful person on the planet it's very easy to be grateful for that instead of spiteful that he used to be opposed. I personally stop short of going any further than simple gratitude, somewhat because he supported marriage equality well ahead of the curve while in the Illinois legislature only to cop-out to political expediency just as Hillary has been accused of, but when you've won a great victory it's a little petty to bellyache it didn't happen sooner or it wasn't accomplished in the most perfect manner possible. The only exception was Log Cabin, who attacked him and proved they care more about being partisan than achieving equal rights.

 

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Hikikomori Blitzkrieg! said

on 6/15/2014 1:52 am

I think in general gay rights advocates are appreciative when somebody comes around to their position and it's easy to forgive mild opposition in the past. And when the newly-supportive person is the most powerful person on the planet... Wait...when did Vladimir Putin come out in favor of same-sex marriage?

 


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